question about premium and cubes

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  1. darogus

    darogus Forum Apprentice

    i curently have premium, i have farmed 8 hours a day for the last 3 days and had only 6 cubes drop, onlt 1 today in 8 hours. i am fighting monsters my lvl or 1-2 lvls higher. is this how cube drops are supost to be cuz if it is, i wont buy premium again. for me with the 3day free premium i was geting like 5 a hour, paid for it and nothing i am upset.
     
  2. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    You've been to marketing phase, now it's reality :)

    Bosses drop cubes very often, PW bosses - always, at least on fatal. Event maps seem to have higher cube drops comparing to normal maps, I still get more in blackborg than anywhere else, 1-2 every run. Check it out.

    5 per hour, I would even say 10 is very doable in blackborg, at least for me.
     
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  3. darogus

    darogus Forum Apprentice

    will try blackbrog but am not 50 yet so cant get to parallel. thanks for tip.


    tried it out and ur right getting 1-3 per run in blackbrog
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2016
  4. mcrockett

    mcrockett Forum Apprentice

    been away a while, what are cubes used for
     
  5. Anyki

    Anyki User

    Hello @mcrockett,

    Cubes are a premium-only feature. When opened by right clicking on them, they can give a random extraordinary item, a gem, or a unique with 1000 ander.

    Hope that helps.

    Cheers,
    Anyki
     
  6. rjrichards

    rjrichards Forum Pro

    Ha experiencing the very same thing here with the low drop rate of cubes after the last updates. So much so when one drops I treat them like a unique item. My Premium expires in 8 days and that will be the last of it. Support says nothing has changed but that's hard to believe when they have so many other bugs in the game that they don't know about. I guess BP is treating DSO like a red headed step child and too busy making bank off of their other offerings.
     
  7. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    If you farm 100 mobs an hour and that is the average then you will get an average drop rate on cubes. If the average kill rate is 10,000 an hour then you drop rate for cubes will be less... .1% what you had before. I goto Grimmag and pop the ritual when I am farming cubes. I can do 10 to 30 an hour. I can get 1 to 10 cubes per go.
     
  8. bezryl

    bezryl Active Author

    i have had premium since long before cubes came into the game and still do so i can tell you from experiance dont expect cubes from *normal* maps

    as others have stated cubes have a higher droprate in event maps and the best place to get them is pw
     
  9. darogus

    darogus Forum Apprentice


    we are supost to get a 1000 ander from them i yet to see that!!!
     
  10. MagicMoon89

    MagicMoon89 Junior Expert

    If you do a lot in the events, parallel worlds, or big bosses(especially on fatal) then premium for the cubes is worth it. If not, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
     
  11. Anyki

    Anyki User

    Hello @darogus,

    The 1000 ander only comes when you get a unique drop from the cubes. And the unique drop is extremely rare. Good luck. :D

    Cheers,
    Anyki
     
  12. rjrichards

    rjrichards Forum Pro

    Hahaha spent a few hours in the PW's today and had one lousy cube drop during that time. I don't care what DSO says they have definitely knocked the crap out of the cube drop rate. Prior to the last few updates I could collect 1-3 each run even in normal maps and moon event maps. Thank DSO...
     
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  13. TrampSvk78

    TrampSvk78 Forum Greenhorn

    I am trying to finish lvl. 50 (currently 49 and 60%) and I try to farm normal maps (cradle of life, cradle of death), I play 3-4 hours a day (last 4 days less) and I get maybe 2 cubes (most of time 0) for this time ... and I do not count, how many legendary items I dropped last week (ok, I counted, and it was exactly 1) ... so, to be honest, I do not know, if I am extremely unlucky or what.
     
  14. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    There are several options, all bad:
    1. DSO cuts back on drops to reduce the load on their crappy servers. Less graphics, less load on their system. We starve.
    2. DSO has a system that cannot deliver the better drops they want us to have. Program, equipment, staff, whatever, all a vicious cycle of incompetence. Always too little, too late. We starve.
    3. DSO thinks we actually like doing without. Masochists need sadists for true fulfillment; DSO takes care of our special needs. We starve.
    4. DSO management is a school of icks, with large, dorsal fins. They punish players for complaining or expecting better, and/or drive players out of the game, so they can go out of business peacefully. Or the demented can't see any farther than the financial statement. We starve.
    5. Any other scenarios?
    ----
    Whoa! I found one!
    After the Werian reset, DSO gave all the afflicted players a free day of premium. After the Perils of time fiasco, DSO gave a bonus code for 3 days of free premium. By reducing cube drops, DSO is just making sure their empty gestures are totally worthless. Satisfaction trolls at work!
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2016
  15. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    These types of games use a random number generator to replicate luck. It's an algorithm, that someone decided was a good thing. When these dev's total the number of players and divide it by the total number of drops, they reach their predetermined percentage. It is no different than what the casinos use and claim to pay back 95%. Over time the numbers add up.

    Of course it doesn't make anyone feel better when they are on the "unlucky" side of drops. Most of us have been there at some point in time. I'm having one heck of a time finding blue ess drops. During the last dragan event I was stockpiling stacks, now I'm lucky if I get 1 drop every few hours. Now I could argue that the drop rate has been changed, but others are swearing that it drops for them. Luckily I only use it for boss runs, but it doesn't make me feel any better.

    Unless DSO decides to reveal the secret numbers to the random generator there is no way to prove whether or not things have been adjusted.
     
  16. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    So an individual's drop rate is governed by a set value and the number of players on line at the time.
    No wonder drops are better at off-peak times!
    So, why does DSO encourage group play, to stack the drops against F2P and weak players? The easier it is to group up, the less you get.
    It sounds like a hidden tax on people with bedtimes, the young, the poor, people with day school and day jobs. Ick.
     
  17. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    There are tons of options to program a random number generator, and I have no idea how DSO programmed theirs. In C++ There is an equal probability (chance) that each number from 0 to RAND_MAX gets chosen each time rand function is called. Then you have scaling factors that can also be added. Basically it is programmed luck as much as it can be within set parameters.

    If you want to seriously drive yourself crazy, google random number generator in mmo games and then look for the C++ ones. The coding possibilities are staggering.
     
  18. SGK|GaminG|HD2000

    SGK|GaminG|HD2000 Active Author

    when they removed the option for the free cube drops without premium, they removed but i still got one from mobs near parallel world dk.
    and i can open it without premium. luck.. it dropped a simple ruby i think :p
     
  19. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Baron

    I got today at least 1 per run in Blackborg.
     
  20. TrampSvk78

    TrampSvk78 Forum Greenhorn

    I do not know why, but my lower level characters (lvl. 35) get better drop for their level and also more cubes like my lvl 49 character ...yesterday when I was doing daily challenge with my DK in the Eternal watch map (doing quests and collecting items for cloak of power) I got 5 or 6 cubes dropped during this one run ... on the other hand, my archer (main character) got 0 cubes, 1 extraordinary ring, 3 blue items ... but who knows, maybe DSO random generator just does not like my ranger :)
     
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