Suggestion Rework Emilia's items

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  1. Conqueror21

    Conqueror21 Forum Apprentice

    I 've been thinking about buying Emilia's items every time I got freemium from a bonus code and I had the needed amount of gold,but as a SW ,I dont think they are even close as good as the PW's or event's items.For my class , there is no astonishing cooldown reduction or a huge damage increase for a specific skill: The 2h weapon increases LS damage only by 30% and the pauldors decrease singularity's cooldown only by 20%.However these items can be crafted quite some time now,so why don't you recreate all of them,making them more useful? (perhaps adding more items to buy from Emilia too,for all classes that is).Add a bonus to motivate people to get them and make them worth buying.I'm pretty sure that no SM's would use the Iron dwarf's gloves,no DK would use Groundbreaker's 2h weapon and no RA would use that quiver with the 25% decrease when they can opt for PW's sets and items, which are all way superior than them.
     
  2. Paavelsons

    Paavelsons Regular

    boooooooooo
    with uniques what pw and normal map gives those emila items can be very good.. but nobody wont use them anyway.

    but again. speak for your own class not other classes. everyone has theyr own skills and damage outputs.
    why everyone thinks that everyone should do same walk same. what is wrong with people in here.
     
  3. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    I have the royal smash hammer on t5
    Worked my behind of to get it there
    Anyways I asked for them to insert 30% increased weapon damage as a unique value again like on the old ones
    this crafted would make it the strongest unbuffed weapon in the game
    still waiting for them to do it...........
     
  4. Conqueror21

    Conqueror21 Forum Apprentice

    Could you give me an example?If you had to choose between Emilia's 2h and q4 2h(or full set) what would you choose?The q4 one deals way more damage for every class.You said that better combinations can make Emilia's items more valuable?Wrong!The last couple of years nobody has ever cared about them,all attention was drawn to the PW's and event's sets and items:these items have bonuses,fit well with each other and are generally superior to these forgotten items.They 're widely used,they are in trend,they are the best choice because the last years they only grew stronger and other items were adjusted and made only to fit them,because everyone uses them.Emilia's items are old-fashioned.That's exactly why Emilia's items should be reworked and it would be to everyone's benefit if that happens.Then would we be able to make actually good combinations using them.

    What's wrong is that you misinterpreted what I said.I never said we should be the same.However,we should be equal.An item that reduces a cooldown by 60% for one class
    can't reduce 20% for another.As I said though it would be to everyone's benefit if the items are reworked,because come one,face it, no one uses them and no one is going to use then and invest their cores on them the way that they are now.Even the best of them are not used,and it's a shame.You 're saying that some items are good,even though they were designed to serve needs that belong to the past.
     
  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Those Items have been reworked just recently.
     
  6. Conqueror21

    Conqueror21 Forum Apprentice

    Are you reffering to the fact that they can be crafted?When that happened,instead of changing to an extent the items, when it comes to the skills they boost,SW's 2h LS damage increase went from +100% to 30%.As I said before in their current condition these items are just not good enough to replace witch seeker set for example....and that's why they have to be reworked , making abilities that are not used,useful/enhancing the increases they offer or changing for good.
     
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  7. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    They maybe need to be part of a 2 pieces set to be more attractive. Besides there's the fact they require solid cores to be upgraded and that's probably the major issue with these items.
     
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  8. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    Reworked and mega nerfed....
    Like I said before the 30% increased weapon damage should be added as a unique value to the current unique values, with the enchantments intact.
    This will allow for something that is called variety in the game.
    I do not see what the problem with this is because, it wont kill Q7, but some might prefer the prem unique weapon over Q7.
    Same for Q4 if the weapon did an additional 50% increased damage to currently bleeding foes instead of 25, people would opt for this too.
    Blood rune weapon is amazingly perfect except the conditional 100% idoti should be removed, that will then have the highest permanent idoti of any weapon.(make it 100% idoti permanently, not based on hp it kills you in boss battles)
    The dragan weapon is useless as it is, even after the elemental enchantments it is not that wow for a person to want to keep it.
    Lets go on.
    The dune weapon 2h, though it can be bought on t0 and it can drop on t3, it does not entice players enough to consider it an end game item.
    The large machine axe, the unique crit line is not good enough either. (here a 15 to 30% weapon damage unique line will do wonders too)
    Moving on to Tiamat, you know where this weapon gets its name? It is from the razer tiamat, iow way back when DSO was doing things with razer, that name came up, the 10% attack speed is too low, it should be 15 or 20, to make it really stand out.
    The dune adornment, belt and amulet is craftable, nice but what about that mace? or the cloak, should be nice to be able to get that cloak on t3 at least.
    I know BP is doing a lot of effort towards balancing the game, but these are the things that should have been looked at first
     
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Dude let me get this straight.
    You are using that weapon and you are screaming for another reworking ... it won't happen ... at least not soon.
    No one is forcing you to use that uber useless weapon.
    Yes variety ... i am the one of few advocates of variety in this game ... however ... variety in F2P game doesn't mean OP items for premium users only. Variety should be added in all the rest of the items.
    If they are not good ... use something that is good. Why should Premium items be better than the others?
    Those items has always been a kind of compensation for premium newbies. But unlike then now all items are having random stats and enchantments. I have bought one item (at least I tried) on one of my TS toons (since we all now have free premium on TS) and I have spent 40K gold and never got a single item with base stats close to be considered as good.
    Not to mention they are all T0 and you have to sell your kidneys and your liver in order to get resources to upgrade the items on highest tier.
    The fact is ... they were reworked. Are they useless? Yes ... so and the rest of the 95% of the all reworked items are useless too.
     
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  10. Conqueror21

    Conqueror21 Forum Apprentice

    I know,I don't want the gap between P2W and F2P players to be even more enlarged.However,the reason why I'm suggesting these particular items to be reworked is because they and Gnob's items are the only ones you can get the recources to buy , while farming.For Gnob it's draken which you can gain while farming events,for Emilia it's gold,which nowadays can be gained quite easily(from the PWs) compared to the past.Some of Gnob's items/sets like Armour of Darkness and Dragonache are good ,why shouldn't Emilia' be too?Also when reffering to rework ,I mean being equal for each class too,because the only one with kinda good items from all this is the DK (though they need to be reworked for all classes)...the skills boosted are still used,and the boosts themselves are good.


    As I said the resources for these items can be gained while farming....unlike that 95%.That means that a common F2P player,like me and you farming PW regularly,would definitely prefer waiting to get freemium from a bonus code to purchase the items (if they were worth), (even if they had to wait 3 months or so) ,while farming , both PWs and the resources for Emilia's items (gold), instead of farming the 95% items that can be obtained premium or not , but not being in PW.Not having the cores,the matteri the boss-unique drops...The only alternative is reworking all the other items,making them not only as good as the PW items,but perhaps even better to match the losses in PW resources.
     
  11. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    Okay then.....
    Firstly am using Q4 set at the moment.
    Secondly Like @Conqueror21 said once you get freemium the weapon and or other stuff can be purchased.
    And like I said that 30% weapon damage would not kill Q7 it would just make more variety.
    In another post you just pointed out how Q7 makes any other weapon obsolete, if this is true then how would the 30% be a threat?
    By the way, that uber useless weapon got me to 19k damage on t5 which is hard to reach for people whom does not have crafting experience, I might tier it just for the heck of it in the future.
     
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