Crafting 2.0 Results

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  1. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    Those results are sickening. It means that you have to seriously chance loosing your best lines to get the best/cheapest crafting possible. :( :( :(

    And the sad thing is that I can loosly confirm your results because all my best crafts have had lines from the 3/4 position input items. :(
     
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  2. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    If the seed in the rng doesn't change, based on what I've gotten through the last 116 crafts the best odds would be to have the following:

    Item 1 - Item 2 - Item 3 - Item4
    Gold line - junk line - gold line - junk line
    Junk line - gold line - junk line - gold line
    Junk line - junk line - gold line - junk line
    Gold line - gold line - gold line - gold line

    That would mean throwing away the best item each time until the rng gods give me a 4/4 weapon.

    If I wanted to go with two good items and two junk, my odds would be best by using slots 2 and 3.

    The idea of throwing away 3 good lines has stopped me from trying it, but at 500+ gold for tier 4 and 600+ gold for tier 5 tries, this is getting plain stupid.
     
  3. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    My latest bit of luck:
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    It was a 1 Low Plat+1 Low gold/1 Low Plat/1 High Gold/1 High Gold craft and all I was hoping for a one or two plat line and one or two gold line legendary to use with my legendary to legendary gold line crafting that I've been working on... I did not expect to get a new place holder weapon to hold me while I keep working on my "Super Weapon."
    In the result, the 81.9 and the 72.7 came from the first item, the 76.6 came from the third, and the 75.9 was the random.
    I put it on my Herald Weapon you see there and the 9.018% increase ended up giving me another 896 damage with white essence, allowing me to cross the 45k mark.
     
  4. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    So I decided to throw 11 gold lines at it (craft attempt 122) with the same lousy results. For the first time in all these tries, it pulled 3 choices from the item placed in the forth slot. Of course that was the item with only 2 gold lines.

    This is just truly sickening.

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  5. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    Yeah it is stupid and completely random at that point.....lets see if the new small release actually fixed it!
     
  6. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Well, in all fairness, with 11 lines in, you only had a 18.13% chance of a 4/4... less than a 1 in 5 chance of success. This is randomness acting like randomness.

    There is nothing to fix... randomness is behaving pretty normally.

    I'm currently working on a craft that has about a 1:370 chance. I know that these are long odds, but I'll keep working it because I feel it is worth it. Let me show you what I reverted:

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    There is nothing productive about getting upset at a PRNG. It doesn't care about your feelings.
     
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  7. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    Wait, 9.515% movement speed? Gold line? Did I miss something? :D
    I thought max gold was about 7.7%, and max platinum 9.2% o_O
     
  8. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Baron

    It's an old lvl50 line, see the item lvl... and base values.
     
  9. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    Oh wow ok :D
     
  10. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And that is why the item was reverted... the first item in the mix was a 3x gold line pair of boots with all the lines at 9.xxx and higher.
     
  11. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    To date, I've never gotten a 4/4 (with the lines I want) at the crafting bench, so I know that I'm at the bottom of the bell curve when it comes to stats.

    With the increased price, I'm paying about 1000 gold per attempt, just to revert the fail, which is just rough to put up with. When I sign on today, I'll be going for attempt #128.

    My guess is that I'll end up getting lucky with a noob craft before the target craft.

    When it comes to random drops, I have been on the lucky side of the bell curve. I've gotten 3 very acceptable 4/4 items with the lines I want. I got the green crafting thing very early on out of a 25 lock pick chest (no blue yet but I've only spent around 400 keys). From the list given on the 214 update, I've gotten all of the pets/costumes that drop from mobs.
     
  12. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Expert

    Almost a bingo ... but still good first replacement for 73,xxx% I have

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    I'm not sure will I use it right now because already have 5,00 x cd (400%)
     
  13. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    So perhaps you should build a ring with three platinum lines of crit damage and a gold/platinum line of HPotI to improve your survivability. The three lines of crit damage should be about 65%, and a 61%-73% HP line could easily give you an extra 3k-5k HP depending on base stats and gems
     
  14. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Expert

    I have few regular gold lines combos similar to what you've suggested and I think that I'll stay with full cd on rings .

    For the start instead white spiders cloak, I can use black to max up crit hit (without green & blue schema) etc.


    Now, this is other project finally reach last stage : matching up old lines with max new platinum:

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    Platinum line decreased 0,120 from 55 lvl but now I can work on a perfect ones or just use this one.
     
  15. Асото

    Асото Someday Author

  16. DJBarman

    DJBarman Active Author

  17. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    That is very impressive.
     
  18. Асото

    Асото Someday Author

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  19. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Regular

    Call me a n00b but I have a couple of questions.
    1. The "Revert" button looks available even though you used different items.
    2. I thought random craft creates an entirely new stat roll, and doesn't allow for them to be inherited.
    3. You pristine core transferred from a sword to a hammer?

    Are all 2H weapons treated as equal for crafting purposes? I thought I had read everything there is to read here and on the wiki and if I missed something this big, and simple, I guess I will be eating humble pie.
     
  20. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    2H weapons are treated identically for crafting purposes, assuming we are talking about get 4 great enchantments and then pristine crafting them on to an unique. You can put a 2H sword, a 2H axe and 2 2H hammers on the bench and craft and revert. You can pristine core craft the enchantments of a 2H legendary sword onto a 2H unique hammer.

    The same concept applies to 1H weapons and rings.
     
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